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Nurses Fired over Declining The Flu Shot

CNN News reports that several nurses in Indiana refused the flu shot, and then were fired for not taking it.  Sue Schrock and others chose not to receive the shot for medical as well as religious reasons, and the hospital chose to fire her over that decision.  This isn’t new, hospital employees have had their jobs threatened over denying vaccinations for years.

What is new, is that this story is becoming common place.  Many of you remember the two major flu scares that turned into nothing in the last eight years.  First the Bird Flu (Avian Flu) was hyped up to pandemic proportions, even though the flu itself did little damage that year.  One of the reasons this, as well as the shortly following swine flu, were exploited to such levels, the falsified data that is often used when reporting on flu deaths.

The CNN Live video that can be found here: http://youtu.be/7jnaQWTusyQ   is a great way to get in touch with false reporting.  The chief medical correspondent uses an often overstated stat, that 36,000 people die each year from the flu.  Fortunately, she is dead wrong.  The CDC reports that in our country, about 2,000 people at most die in a single year from the flu.  But as we look closer, we will find the 36,000 number to actually be directly attributable to pneumonia.  Pneumonia can come from the flu, but the reality is that it can come from almost any type and kind of infection, both viral and bacterial.

Influenza vaccine supporting policy makers, drug manufacturers and medical doctors (anyone who stands to profit from the vaccine in most cases); has been “borrowing” this 36,000 number for years.    It makes for a pretty convincing NEED for a drug that will save you from flu risk… but will it save you?

Let me pull out an excerpt from the NY Time from this past November for you.  If you have always turned your ear when we start spouting negativity about the flu shot, its time you focused in:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/reassessing-flu-shots-as-the-season-draws-near/

For vaccine manufacturers, it’s a bonanza:Influenza shots — given every year, unlike many other vaccines — are a multibillion-dollar global business.

But how good are they?

Last month,, in a step tantamount to heresy in the public health world, scientists at the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota released a report saying that influenza vaccinations provide only modest protection for healthy young and middle-age adults, and little if any protection for those 65 and older, who are most likely to succumb to the illness or its complications. Moreover, the report’s authors concluded, federal vaccination recommendations, which have expanded in recent years, are based on inadequate evidence and poorly executed studies.

These are the scientists who are paid to produce more information that supports using flu shots, not the opposite.  But they couldn’t deny the research that was lying in front of them.  Conscious overcame the pocket book, and the report comes out as it should be.

Sue shouldn’t have lost her job.  She made a choice to avoid the toxins of the shot, and in so doing, upset the policy based more on image and profitability than anything else.  Most vaccines have not been blockbuster drugs, but the flu shot always is.  Look back through our archives, and read about the year that Rumsfield made millions, as he influenced the decision for the government to pour billions into buying the Avian flu vaccine (didn’t really exist as it was later found to be inadequate against that strain).  The vaccine was manufactured by a company that he had significant ownership in.  The patent was held by a different company, but his involvement was on the production side.

Money seems to sit behind so many of these decisions. Be well, don’t be fooled. – Dr. E

7 thoughts on “Nurses Fired over Declining The Flu Shot”

  1. How long will it be before we are no longer allowed exemption forms for our children to go to school? And, I believe that mandatory vaccines are in the health care bill? I wonder if our insurance companies will start dropping us if we do not comply. Our freedoms are being stripped away one by one and this will not be a free country for much longer.

  2. Exactly Ashley. Health Freedom has been greatly attacked in the last ten years, and even more so in the last four.

  3. Hospitals have to remain clean and healthy, and also defend against illnesses that could not only spread easily in a hospital, but also put people’s lives at risk. Such as the flu.

    Vaccines work, plain and simple. Any idiot can look at trends in disease and see the direct effects of vaccines on our population, but there’s so much more than just statistical trends to back up the effectiveness of vaccines. If you’re an employee of an organization that enforces vaccinations to remain healthy and safe, and you agreed to those terms when hired, then that’s that. You violate those terms, you no longer have a job.

    Estimated chance this comment will be deleted by anti-vaxxers: ~95%

  5. Being educated about microbes and learning better hygiene certainly had an effect on infectious diseases, but is no where near enough to contain and eliminate diseases such as Measles.

    Case in point: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/23/health/ohio-measles/

    Imagine if that already well kept and clean community was vaccinated. Protip: not much to imagine. Everyone vaccinated = no one sick.

    Don’t forget your basics in statistics: correlation is not causation. Just because there was a decline before vaccines doesn’t mean that decline would have continued at the rate it was (in fact it didn’t continue, I’ll touch on that in a bit). Vaccines work, plain and simple. It takes a decent amount of cognitive dissonance to force yourself to believe otherwise. If you try to think about it objectively, it’s not that hard to see the very simple logic that science has proven time and time again 🙂 Our immune system works by detecting, finding and destroying invading bacteria and viruses (aka germs) and once we’re introduced to the disease, our immune system is imprinted with that virus’s identity and is easily detected and destroyed for future occurrences.

    Vaccines contain weakened or hollowed out versions of the viruses we immunize against, such as polio or measles/mumps/rubella, thus introducing our immune system to these viruses so it can familiarize itself with it and defend against it in the future without any real risk. Didn’t get immunized? That means the first time you’re introduced to the actual virus, it has the upper hand. Your immune system has no antibodies pre-programmed for that invading germ, giving it a severe disadvantage that often leads to death.

    The post you linked has some fairly low quality charts, however I’m well versed on the timeline. In regards to measles, between 1950 and 1958 we see wild fluctuations in number of cases. Between 1956-1959 we see it’s last decline before vaccines. It than plateaus until about 1962, when the vaccine was released at which point the disease drops much more dramatically than ever before, and does get back up.

    That’s the beauty of science though. We don’t need to correlate vaccines with the chart. We can go to a lab and test with animals. Vaccinate some, and don’t vaccinate others. Watch as the others die while the vaccinated test subjects thrive. Simple logic, “Dr” Eric.

    Oh, and scarlet fever (scarlatina), AKA a complication of strep throat, is a bacterial infection and was diminished heavily due to good hygiene, pasteurization of milk, broader use of antibiotics, and the main ingredient: the emergence of novel strains of S. pyogenes. This strain evolved before the antibiotics were used more heavily, and caused the disease (strep) to lead to scarlet fever much less commonly, but spread more easily.

    It’s easy to look at a chart and see trends compared to relevant events and make assumptions. Unfortunately (or fortunately, rather) that’s not how science (medical or otherwise) works. It works by testing, testing, more testing, and proof. Science has shown again and again beyond any possible doubt that vaccines work, and have saved the human population from countless cases of death and suffering.

    Unfortunately it’s become an opinion among a proportionately tiny amount of people that vaccines are harmful, or just for profit. This has driven some people (such as yourself) to go on a mission to discredit vaccines, so now I’m the opposition. It’s very hard for people like you to see things any other way after that. This mission is counter-intuitive and poisonous to the progression of our species however, and you sir are doing humanity a disservice.

  6. You argue against yourself. You reference testing, yet that has never been done in the vaccine world. Show me the test. Science stumbles across a method of antibody production, believes it can “prevent” and moves forward. Without the test.

    Sadly, you sit in a world, where you believe vaccines have afforded life, yet, you have the least healthy industrialized population all around you. The population that has misunderstood the full impact of adjuvants, leading to more auto-immune conditions than any “scientist” could have ever expected.

    In other words, complete failure to test. Testing, ha. What an absolute joke. I love how you so quickly dismiss the graph. As if the prevalence had dropped but a few percentage points. There is absolutely nothing dismissible about that graph. These are some of the strongest trends ever seen in all statistical analysis ever done for all time.

    I don’t need my DR title to argue this. I don’t believe that by being a chiropractor that anyone will take my opinion differently. Shoot, I chose the profession because I love to be an underdog, and you and all who support your beliefs can joke at my expense over the quack doctors we are. I love the call to action that comes with that title, and the fact that 90% of people who read this debate between us will see the simple logic behind my position, and that graph. And your unwillingness to question why you are so dogmatic.

    I pray that God blesses you with open eyes. Oh yes, I pray. And I fully expect you to take offense to that as well, and perhaps toss some jokes out about my belief in a God. I am sure that the big bang theory is much less far fetched.

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